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[ This is the Sinclair family discussion list, sinclair@zilker.net. [ For more information, see http://www.mids.org/sinclair/list.html ------- John Sinclair Q Thank you for the correction I do appreciate it. Tarik is a very Arabic name it amuses me that Tarik Assize deputy PM of Iraq is in fact Christian. Sinclair -----Original Message----- From: John S. Quarterman <jsq@mids.org> To: sinclair@zilker.net <sinclair@zilker.net> Date: 29 October 1998 17:11 Subject: Re: Papl Mandate 1329 >[ This is the Sinclair family discussion list, sinclair@zilker.net. >[ For more information, see http://www.mids.org/sinclair/list.html >------- > >>The moors more properly the Moors refer to Muslims from North Africa Othello >>and Ben Yusiff are two Moorish names. Gibraltar was named after a Moor "Gib >>the Tar" > >Actually, Gibraltar is short for Gebel Tarik, Mountain of Tarik. > >The fight in which our ancestor Sir William was killed took place >in Spain. They were on their way to the Holy Land to bury Bruce's >heart, as he had requested. They couldn't refuse a request by a >Christian Spanish ruler to fight the Moors. The Moors thought >them so chivalrous that the Moors returned the heart and the bodies, >or at least that's what one version says. > >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Jean Haddow <jean@hadpad.demon.co.uk> >>To: sinclair@zilker.net <sinclair@zilker.net> >>Date: 28 October 1998 01:27 >>Subject: Re: Papl Mandate 1329 >> >> >>>[ This is the Sinclair family discussion list, sinclair@zilker.net. >>>[ For more information, see http://www.mids.org/sinclair/list.html >>>------- >>> >>>In message <11194778198970@domain1.bigpond.com>, Mark Bradshaw >>><M.J.B@bigpond.com> writes >>>>[ This is the Sinclair family discussion list, sinclair@zilker.net. >>>>[ For more information, see http://www.mids.org/sinclair/list.html >>>>------- >>>> >>>>Hi Laurel >>>>Here is some more info for you cannot remember what I have already sent. >>>>The moors >>> >>>I don't understand the reference to "the moors". As a Scot, living in >>>Scotland, and a Caithness Sinclair, and peripheral to the debate, I'd >>>be glad of a more precise definition. >>>> when they saw the Scots scattered from each other in the chase, >>>>suddenly turned back and surrounded Sir William St.Clair. Douglas with Sir >>>>Robert Logan and Sir Walter logan galloped to the rescue, but finding the >>>>enemy pressing round in increasing numbers and with no chance of escape, >>>>Douglas took Bruces heart from his neck, round which encased in a silver >>>>casket and chain which he wore he threw it toward the enemy saying " pass >>>>first in fight as thou won't, Douglas will follow thee or die " He then >>>>dashed forward cutting his way through the enemy, but the odds were to >>>>great and he and two Logan Knights, Sir William St.Clair and his brother >>>>John were slain. Douglas body was found lying over Bruces heart. His >>>>followers brought it back to Scotland to which they sorrowfully returned. >>>>The King's heart was buried in Melrose Abbey. >>>>Now in 1996 a silver casket was found during excavation in Melrose Abbey >>>>believed to contain Bruces heart. I see you found the same story, >>>>interesting stuff if you ask me. >>>>Mark :-) >>>>[ >>>>[ This is the Sinclair family discussion list, sinclair@zilker.net. >>>>[ For subscription, unusubscription, or other instructions, see >>>>[ http://www.mids.org/sinclair/list.html >>>>[ or send mail to majordomo@zilker.net with this single line in the body: >>>>[ info sinclair >>>>[ >>>>[ To unsubscribe, send a message like this: >>>>[ >>>>[ To: majordomo@zilker.net >>>>[ >>>>[ unsubscribe sinclair >>>>[ >>> >>>-- >>>Jean Haddow >>>[ >>>[ This is the Sinclair family discussion list, sinclair@zilker.net. >>>[ For subscription, unusubscription, or other instructions, see >>>[ http://www.mids.org/sinclair/list.html >>>[ or send mail to majordomo@zilker.net with this single line in the body: >>>[ info sinclair >>>[ >>>[ To unsubscribe, send a message like this: >>>[ >>>[ To: majordomo@zilker.net >>>[ >>>[ unsubscribe sinclair >>>[ >> >>[ >>[ This is the Sinclair family discussion list, sinclair@zilker.net. >>[ For subscription, unusubscription, or other instructions, see >>[ http://www.mids.org/sinclair/list.html >>[ or send mail to majordomo@zilker.net with this single line in the body: >>[ info sinclair >>[ >>[ To unsubscribe, send a message like this: >>[ >>[ To: majordomo@zilker.net >>[ >>[ unsubscribe sinclair >>[ >[ >[ This is the Sinclair family discussion list, sinclair@zilker.net. >[ For subscription, unusubscription, or other instructions, see >[ http://www.mids.org/sinclair/list.html >[ or send mail to majordomo@zilker.net with this single line in the body: >[ info sinclair >[ >[ To unsubscribe, send a message like this: >[ >[ To: majordomo@zilker.net >[ >[ unsubscribe sinclair >[ [ [ This is the Sinclair family discussion list, sinclair@zilker.net. 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