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Re: Plantations



 The word Plantation in England to this day is used to denote culitvated
areas.  Manorial titles as opposed to nobel are still valid although
copyhold was abolished. Manorial titles give rights over land or usages such
as "the right to hold a fair on a certain day or the right of wreck2 etc

Sinclair
----- Original Message -----
From: <Plumpett@aol.com>
To: <sinclair@jump.net>
Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 1999 1:36 AM
Subject: NOBLE TITLES and LANDS


> LAUREL ---
>
> You may wish to include some of this in your commentary -- I will  cite
the
> major sources . It may also help others to understand the " Middle ages
  --
> some of what many now believe , was of recent origin , not ancient custom
.
>
> By way of introduction , I was at a family reunion of one of the older
> branches of my family ( not Sinclair ) in the USA , this past Sunday , the
> 27th .
>
> By "older " that is to say , the "" Plantations ""( Delaware / Pennsyvania
> USA ) were established  in the 1600's !!  Plantation then did not in any
way
> denote the later usage adopted to describe the slave owners " farms " in
the
> southern USA , although these were as large ( hundeds/thousands of acres )
.
>
> This same line of mine is one of the oldest in England , apparently being
> well established at the time of Alfred the Great ( c.850 ) and its Manor
and
> " Wapintake"
> are described as " anciently ... and in the DOMESDAY survey "
> in the "MAGORA BRITANIA ( 1817 ) .
>
> I was able to extract some reference data from the " family " archives  !!
>
> First , the calling of land names after their owners is a custom of remote
> antiquity . It is written , " They call their lands after their own names
"
> OLD TESTAMENT , PSALMS .
>
> Second , from English usage " A MANOR was a district of ground held by
LORDS
> or GREAT PERSONAGES , as was necessary for the use of their families,
which
> were called terroe, domicales , or demesne lands, being occupied by the
Lord
> , or dominus manerii , and his servants,( i.e. dependents )". LAW
DICTIONARY
> (POTS ) 1813 , p.264 .
>
> With respect to TITLES , I will amplify on my previous letter ::
>
> " EARL " was the oldest title and rank of English nobles and was the
highest
> until 1337, when the BLACK PRINCE was created DUKE of Cornwall by Edward
> III."
>
> " The EARL was a great Royal Officer , who might be set over several
Counties
> (but never less than one County ) . The EARLS of  "Chester and Durham were
> almost petty Sovereigns ".
>
> At this time , it would be appropriate to characterize the other main Peer
> "STYLES."
>
> DUKE -- The first was the "Black Prince "in 1337 . " The original
intention
> may have been to confine the dignity to the blood royal ". Note : The
"Black
> Prince " was one of the most dynamic figures of the entire Middle Ages .
Heir
> to the throne , the overwhelmingly victorious Commanding General of his
> father,  the King's,  armies ; had he lived to assume the throne he may
well
> have changed the history of all of Europe dramatically .
>
> MARQUESS --""In 1385 , Richard II  created , Robert de Vere , "MARQUESS "
of
> Dublin , thus importing an entirely new and unknown title into the Peerage
"".
>
> VISCOUNT --  ' Henry the VI added yet another order , and the last in
point
> of time ...in 1440 "
>
> The important thing to note,  is that although these preceding three
titles
> had
> " Precedence " socially  i.e. reception lines , seating ,etc. , etc. --
>
> ""NONE of the new titles above mentioned  , ever carried with them , any
> official position ; they were conferred as additional honours on men who
were
> already members of the Peerage ."
>
> To restate , the GREATER BARONS ( EARLS and BARONS )  historically were
the
> great landowners in England and from the land they drew wealth , power ,
> military might , etc.
>
> A similar situation was in force on the continent :
>
> GERMANY , AUSTRIA , etc.-- "In the 11th century... all feudatories
(BARONS)
> holding in fief of the Crown , ranked as princes ."
>
> FRANCE --- " Towards the end of the 13th century , the title ( BARON ) ,
had
> come to mean that the bearer held his principal fief direct from the Crown
> and was therefore more important than that of  Count , since many counts
were
> only mediate vassals . "
>
> " Princes .... in the 15th / 16th century , the title of " PRINCE " ranked
> below that of Duke , being sometimes bourne by cadet branches of ducal
> Houses."
>
> ENGLAND --"" It was not until the reign of Henry VII , that the king's
son's
> began to be ranked as " PRINCES "."
>
> "Until recent years , the title " PRINCE " was not conferred on anybody
> except the Heir Apparent to the throne ."
>
> See :: REPORTS ON THE DIGNITY OF A PEER ( Lord ) ;
>           TITLES OF HONOUR (Selden ) ;
>           PEERAGE LAW IN ENGLAND (Palmer ) ;
>           ENCYCLOPAEDIA BRITTANICA ( 1960 )
>
> So, to conclude , I will say again , that BARON was a great honor when
> awarded to William The Seemly and conferred the potential of great wealth
and
> power .
>
> Regads to all ,
>
> JOE G.
>
>
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