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Re: lost branch of Sinclairs

I am mailing what I have gathered today.  Please realize that this is not all I have on this branch.  I gathered this material while working on another line in Louisiana and have not had time to search my files for other records.
I am still not convinced of the brother statement.  I know in my own personal family hearing my mother speak of "Uncle Pack St. Clair" all of my life.  I assumed he was her mother's brother and would have probably stated that if anyone had asked me.  It was only years after her death that I learned that he was her great-great Uncle and had died before her birth.  If the letter you have was written by Neil Bethell, Duncan would have been his great uncle.  Do you have a date for the letter you have?  If it was written after 1893, it was written by Neil Bethell Sinclair as Neil, II was then deceased.  The man who recorded the material on Duncan was a personal friend of Neil II and I really think he knew what he was talking about.  I will do some more digging on this.  The names Neil and Margaret as siblings come up in other materials I have but I haven't found them yet. 
Also, Duncan and Margaret were in New Orleans prior to 1840.  Their first child was Marion born in New Orleans in 1839.  I have not been able to locate Neil in any Louisiana census which is puzzling me no end!  Without a census, I have no earthly idea what his ca. birth year was.  This would help us in determining who was who.  Do you have any idea what year Neil Bethell was born - I assume it is on the death record you have.  That would at least give me an idea of when they left Louisiana as he was born in Tennessee.
Another conflict - Neil II states that his wife's name is Minnie Dalton Smith.  This does not agree with Neil Bethell being named Bethell for his mother's surname.  Possibly for his grandparent surname?
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Sent: Monday, October 30, 2000 10:29 AM
Subject: Re: lost branch of Sinclairs

This is the most exciting breakthrough I've had in quite a while!  We definitely have the right family, even though its very confusing with so many Neil's.  Here's another interesting twist - The Boston Mills cemetery is full of Sinclairs and Campbells, all related to one another, plus  a few others.  The Campbells are also intermarried with the Lyons family!   I correspond with some of their descendants, and I will definitely telephone them today.  Can't wait for the mail.

In Neil's (II) letter he definitely referred to his father's brother Duncan.  Duncan's wife Margaret Sinclair must be the in-law, and possible related to the John Sinclair from Campbelton.    If this John went to New Orleans at an earlier time, that might explain why the shipwreck survivors ended up there, instead of Canada.  It didn't make any sense before.  By the way, I don't think there's a Cambeldon.  Its probably meant to be Campbeltown, on the Kintyre peninsula, argyllshire.

Question to the list:  Do any of you know of a website of sunken emigrant ships?
This one sank in 1845, possibly from Cambeltown or Greenock.  I don't know where
on the North American coast it sank.

Thanks to everyone for making this such a great interactive website!

PS Laurel - I'll be happy to send it to you, along with the brothers in Canada, when it gets sorted out.

Jean Grigsby wrote:

 Toni,I have promised several people this week so if I don't get to it in the next couple of days let me tell you this much now so you can be working on that angle.  I have a copy of a letter written by Neil, SR.  who married Margaret Lyons.  (Your letter was apparently written by his son, Neil or his grandson, Neil Bethell?  Neil, Jr. named a son Neil Bethell Sinclair so actually we are looking at Neil I, Neil II, and Neil III. My records show that Neil II died ca. 1893 in Memphis.  He did name a son Neil Bethell Sinclair and perhaps he is the one who wrote your letter?  My records show that Neil II's aunt was Margaret Sinclair (wife of Duncan Sinclair).  That would make Duncan his uncle through marriage.  So really you have two Sinclair lines here which was not uncommon for cousins to marry in that time era.  Now that is confusing.  To put it in a nutshell - The parent of Neil I and the parent of Margaret were siblings. Yes, I remember very well your gift of the book and one of these days I will finally get all of my Canadian material to you.  There is a lot of it in my files but not yet sorted.  It is only in cases like this that I have it documented.  The only other possible connection in New Orleans would be John, b. ca. 1811.  I researched him also and found he was born in Campeldon, Argylshire, Scotland.  I would be surprised if he was closely related to Duncan or Neil as he was not mentioned in the letter.However, he could have been related to Duncan since Neil's connection was through his wife.  If anyone out there descends from John I will be happy to furnish copies of what I found on him. I am fascinated with the tombstone reference to New OrleansMore later.Jean