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Re: Chief's Birthday

Rory, the Barkers will be there in spirit.  Actually Brad will be in NC with son Jim and I will be in Washington.  But surely we can both find an opportunity to toast Malcolm.  Enjoyed your last Roslin o Roslin.  Bob Flaws is going to take over Yours Aye in March.  It is amazing how little time I have to work and keep Brad busy busy busy.  He is doing great.  We are going to a pre-driving assessment on Thursday.  I have had him out five or six times and he does pretty well.  I didn't think it would be fair if he didn't have some experience.  Sindy Barker
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2000 10:55 PM
Subject: Chief's Birthday

A quick reminder:
Chief's Birthday Celebration
Venue: 133 Major Street, Toronto, Ontario, Canada.
Date:November 3, 2000   7:30 to 11:00 or whenever.
Menu:  finger foods and cheer both metaphorical and liquid
Agenda:  good times and good memories of the past year.
-----Original Message-----
From: Niven Sinclair <niven@niven.co.uk>
To: sinclair@matrix.net <sinclair@matrix.net>
Date: Monday, July 03, 2000 10:07 AM
Subject: La famille de St Clair by Philppe Champy.

Although Professor Champy's book (which is essentially on the de Courcy family)
is not going to be published until next year, he has kindly sent me a copy of the
Chapter on the St Clairs of France which, understandably enough, is in French.

However, I will be pleased to send a copy to anyone who wishes to read a Frenchman's
views on the origins of the St Clairs.  His opinions have not always tallied with my own
but, after some correspondence, he agreed (and I quote) "...the curious transmission
of the Saint Clair fief between the three families* is a little astonishing".

Previously, Professor Champy had maintained that Walderne*, Hamon* and Hubert* were
NOT brothers but it is my intention that, if they were not brothers german (i.e. of the same
parents - both mother and father) they were certainly brothers natural (i.e. with the same
father but not necessarily with the same mother) otherwise it was extremely unlikely that
there would have been a transmission of the fiefdom i.e. land holdings between the families
because the possession and transmission of land was invariably from father to son(s).

Professor Champy also believes that the Henri de Saint Clair, who took part in the 1st
Crusade was of Norman stock rather than the son of William 'the Seemly' St Clair who had been granted Rosslyn by Malcolm Canmore.  I think he is splitting hairs because, at the material time and for generations afterwards, the St Clairs would be speaking Norman French (the language of the Court).  In any event, they hadn't been in Scotland for long enough to lose their Norman culture.  His sister, Richelde, who was also born at Rosslyn, returned to Normandy to marry her cousin, Robert of Chaumont.  This, too, was customary in order to maintain the bloodline.  The Sinclairs had a strategy which transcended national
boundaries.  France was always a happy hunting ground for the Scots because of the
'auld alliance' or the 'entente cordiale'.  The number of French words which are still a part of the Scottish vocabulary is evidence of this.

Niven Sinclair

Niven Sinclair