Re: Prince Henry in the New World

[Francine Bernier <f_bernier@videotron.ca>]

Title: Re: Prince Henry in the New World

on 27/09/00 10:27, Niven Sinclair at niven@niven.co.uk wrote:

> The following information appeared in The Scotsman dated 26th September, 2000
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>> 
>>> The Scotsman Online - 26 Sep 2000
>>> 
>>> Stone suggests Scot was first to land in Canada
>>> 
>>> David Montgomery
>>> 
>>> IT HAS lain undisturbed for
>>> almost 600 years gathering moss by
>>> the side of a Canadian
>>> lake. But now, after enduring centuries
>>> of rain and sun, the rock
>>> has revealed a secret which could
>>> change the history of North
>>> America.
>>> 
>>> It is claimed that carvings
>>> on the boulder provide further proof
>>> that a Scottish nobleman
>>> discovered the New World almost a
>>> century before Christopher
>>> Columbus,
>>> 
>>> Henry Sinclair, Baron of
>>> Roslin and Earl of Orkney, is said to
>>> have landed in North
>>> America in 1398 in what is now Nova
>>> Scotia in Canada.
>>> 
>>> Evidence for this voyage
>>> first surfaced in an obscure medieval
>>> document, the Zeno
>>> Narrative, thought to have been
>>> composed about 1400 by two
>>> navigators in Sinclair's service.
>>> 
>>> American historian
>>> Frederick Pohl presented geographic
>>> evidence in his book Prince
>>> Henry Sinclair that the settlement
>>> in "Estotiland" had been in
>>> Nova Scotia. The same theory had
>>> earlier been presented in
>>> the journal Scientific Monthly in 1951
>>> by a geologist at the
>>> University of Michigan.
>>> 
>>> Now the discovery of the
>>> disfigured boulder on the shores of
>>> Lake Memphremagog, 60 miles
>>> south-east of Montreal and
>>> close to the US border,
>>> appears to confirm that the Scottish
>>> nobleman did step ashore
>>> more than 600 years ago.
>>> 
>>> One of the carvings shows
>>> the outline of Sinclair's
>>> coat-of-arms as reproduced
>>> in an obscure 14th-century
>>> heraldry book. Another
>>> illustration opposite the coat-of-arms
>>> appears to be a fairly
>>> accurate map of the North American
>>> Atlantic coast from Yucatan
>>> to Nova Scotia.
>>> 
>>> Michael Bradley, the author
>>> of Grail Knights of North America ,
>>> said the carvings suggested
>>> that after landing in Nova Scotia,
>>> Sinclair's settlers
>>> relocated to Lake Memphremagog.
>>> 
>>> He said the site may have
>>> been chosen because it offered
>>> safety to "heretics"
>>> fleeing religious persecution in Europe;
>>> Sinclair was a known patron
>>> of refugee Knights Templar,
>>> created around 1114-1118 to
>>> guard the Holy Grail.
>>> 
>>> "The Knights Templar were
>>> accused of heresy and hunted by
>>> the Inquisition. Many
>>> Templars took refuge in Scotland
>>> between 1307-1314 after the
>>> papal dissolution of their order.
>>> Therefore, there's the
>>> distinct possibility that a European
>>> community around Lake
>>> Memphremagog was populated by
>>> religious 'heretics' or
>>> dissidents," Mr Bradley said.
>>> 
>>> The Zeno Narrative
>>> describes a fairly large expedition across
>>> the Atlantic, and infers
>>> several hundred people stayed behind
>>> to populate the settlement
>>> Sinclair founded. A populous colony
>>> would inevitably have
>>> explored its new country, and there is
>>> some evidence pre-Columbian
>>> Europeans penetrated inland
>>> along the St John and
>>> Connecticut rivers.
>>> 
>>> Mr Bradley said they may
>>> have moved from the original landing
>>> point in Nova Scotia
>>> because it was seen as being too
>>> vulnerable to discovery by
>>> ships exploring for heretics.
>>> 
>>> "Lake Memphremagog would
>>> not be obvious to marauding
>>> European mari-ners," he
>>> said. "If the Memph-remagog region
>>> did become the 'capital' of
>>> Sinclair's refugee population, this
>>> would explain [the] boulder
>>> - it was symbolic of the refugees'
>>> loyalties and their
>>> domain."
>>> 
>>> He said the discovery would
>>> be easier to dismiss were it not for
>>> two older finds across Lake
>>> Memphremagog. A stone-carved
>>> "gargoyle" was found, in
>>> the mid-eighties in a stream-bed. In
>>> 1998, two Toronto art
>>> historians said that the gargoyle
>>> resembled
>>> Celtic-Scandinavian sculpture of AD 1400-1500, and
>>> especially resembled the
>>> Apprentice Pillar at Roslin Chapel
>>> outside Edinburgh.
>>> 
>> 
> Niven Sinclair
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Greetings,
I am presently reading Micheal Bradeley's book (Grail Knights of North America, Hounslow Press, 1998) for the 2nd time. From his observations, the mark you mention (in Mansonville / more precisely Vale Perkins, Quebec) is a strange mark carved in stone that looks only vaguely like a part of the Sinclair coat of arms (we see a deer with 4 legs, but no royal head with a crown). Maybe one just wants to see it as a Sinclair sign... In my opinion, the one truly intriguing artefact is the stone head found in 1958 by a local hunter (before Gérard de Sève's books) in Pennsylvania that is very much similar to the «Murdered Apprentice» scuplture found in Rosslyn Chapel. Both bear the same marks on the forehead and neck. Date yet unknown. All we know is that the hunter, not knowing what the scuplture was, used it as a doorstep for many years...
Francine