Re: The wise men

[Gordon Holmes <lafleur@home.com>]

Hi, Folks..
And another view to all concerned..the 12 apostles did not write their
"Gospels" for Years after Christ's death. (the single Apostle "Paul",
formally known as Saul) published His works long before the original
twelve. Matters became complicated with the consideration that the story
of the birth was translated into Greek and Roman and was open to many
discrepincies....My best guess would be taken from the so called Wonders
of The World, which themselves came later after an expansion of Greek
territory much later. None of these wonders were far from the known
world, even though Alexander had moved the borders out considerably.  A
European King..not likely given the almost stone aged  state of their
govenments..African..I can buy that, but not too far.A King from the
orient, by the time it reached the written page likely meant somewhere
in Asia Minor, close by...as "The Orient" was just that..Persia, et al,
until Marco Polo.
Regards,Gordon... (I wager I am in trouble over this, but O Well, It is
discussion) P.S. I would LOVE to be in a ship in the small fleet that
Prince Henry had...and move to the New world...G 

Spirit One Email wrote:
> 
> But keep in mind, the names of the wise men (never called kings in the
> Bible) were never given.  This is just later tradition.  The Bible says they
> saw the star when they were "in the east".  So you couldn't have them coming
> from Europe, Asia and Africa.   Nonsense.
> Three gifts are mentioned but that doesn't mean that one guy might have had
> two gifts or that there were others that didn't bring anything or their
> gifts were just not listed.  All we know is that there were at least two
> wise men who came close to two years after the birth of Christ.  (I put 4
> wise men in our Christmas pagaent this year)  By that time his family was
> living in a house in Bethlehem.  Joseph was not exceptionally poor.  He had
> an occupation, carpenter.   He had expected to stay in an inn, so had the
> anticipated inflated payment to offer, but it says "there was no room" not
> that he couldn't afford to pay.
> I would guess that since Mary's condition was causing a stir in Nazareth,
> Joseph had brought along his carpenter equipment and expected to continue
> his occupation in his native Bethlethem.  Perhaps he had realized a profit
> when he sold his place of residence in Nazareth.  So as soon as he could, he
> would have moved the family into a house, or else built one in Bethlehem.
> Laurel
> Portland, OR
> >
> >    Sinclair Dates:  January 6. In 3 B.C.: Twelfth Night. The Three Wise
> >    Men, Kings, or Magi, traditionally named Gaspar, Melchior and
> >    Balthazar, and representing Europe, Asia and Africa, bring gifts to
> >    the baby Jesus, twelve nights after the birth. Traditionally the night
> >    is called Twelfth Night and the day is Epiphany.
> >    In 2000: Laura Zola sails. Laura Zola, the renowned Italian
> >    yachtswoman, leaves Venice on her attempt to re-enact the voyage of
> >    the [1]Zeno Brothers to Orkney; she is escorted to open sea by the
> >    Italian Navy.
> >
> > References
> >
> >    1. http://www.mids.org/sinclair/600/zeno.html
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