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Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 1999 9:52
Subject: The Stone of Scone
The Stone which sat under the throne in Westminster Abbey was
not the real Stone of
Destiny. Edward I knew this. The Scots
knew this so, when Edward III offered to give it
back at the Treaty of
Northampton, they refused to accept it but accepted the Holy
Knowing this, it was, therefore, quite surprising to find present
day Scots celebrating the
return of the fake Stone of Scone which was
nothing more than the stopper for the access
to a bottle-necked
dungeon. Such dungeons were almost standard features in most Scottish
Castles. The two metal rings embedded in the stone were to facilitate
the raising and lowering of the stone.
The true Stone of Destiny is to
be found on land owned by a Sinclair which is within a stone's throw of Scone
Palace. It is NOT at Rosslyn Chapel as has been suggested.
of Rosslyn Chapel may, however, contain the Holy Rood which was
back from Durham by Simon Sinclair.
The fake stone is of
local red sandstone whilst the Stone of Destiny is of black basalt.
shape and size and composition is well known thanks to the writing of Walter
Hemingford who was Edward I's chronicler who attended the Coronation of
at Scone on St Andrew's Day 1292. The stone is described
as quidem ad modem
rotundae cathedra convectus. It was black,
polished and shaped like a stool which
(because it was too low) was placed
within a chair. It was also decorated. Indeed, it
difficult to find anything more dissimilar to the fake Stone of Scone
Edward I's son, Edward II, took to London to deceive his own people
into believing that he had 'acquired' the sacred stone on which Scottish Kings
were crowned - thus implying that there would be no more coronations in
Scotland because he was the King of Scotland as well as England. King
Edward was desirous of annihilating everything which represented
preserved the independence of Scotland.
It is a great pity that
present day Scots know so little about their own history otherwise
might have been less enthusiasm about the 'return' of the fake stone which
handed over by Prince Andrew to the Lord Lyon, King of Arms, Sir
Malcolm Innes (whose
mother is a Sinclair) who (whatever his own opinion
might be) had no alternative other than
to accept the 'gift' with as good
grace as he could muster.
Robert the Bruce was also crowned on the true
Stone of Destiny before it was hidden.
The stone had been given
originally by a Pharoah to his daughter, Scotia, who was
given in marriage
to General Gathelus who had defeated the Hitites with an army
composed of Macedonians - the warrior people who Alexander 'the
Great' eventually used to
capture all the land between the Mediterranean
and the Indus.
The journey of Jacob's pillow from the Middle East to
Scotland has already been described with greater fancy than