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Re: Titles




Dear Niven

Bought or buyable titles have value they yield income I inherited 5 from
land purchases I aquired 9 more they came with land before people realised
what they were worth I hired a reaseacher in 1972 to find the value of an
English title I got from my father in the early 70's you could get them for
a song today they change hands at 30,000 or more you can sell the Scot
Superiorties without land and the English Lordships stripped of all rights,
the Church of England started this pratice they are never to be confused
with peerages but with the current gov't madness they may become more
valuable than empty titles.

>From Scot and English I collect feu duties of around 28,000 a year
worthless I do not think describe these goods

Sinclair
----- Original Message -----
From: Niven Sinclair <niven@niven.co.uk>
To: <laurel@spiritone.com>
Cc: <jsq@mids.org>; <sinclair@mids.org>; <sinclair@mindspring.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 27, 1999 10:55 PM
Subject: Titles


>
> I do not wish to become drawn into futile arguments so I am limiting this
> e-mail to your goodselves.
>
> Titles in order are: Prince
> Duke
> Marquess
> Earl
> Viscount
> Baron
>
> There are many Dukes in Scotland (Montrose, Fife, Atholl, Buccleuch*,
> Edinburgh, etc)
>
> There is the Marquess of Bute (a Stuart)
>
> There are many Earls including our own Clan Chief, Malcolm Sinclair, the
> Earl of Caithness.
>
> There are even more Viscounts including, John Sinclair, The 3rd Viscount
> Thurso of Ulbster.
>
> A marquess, an earl or a viscount are addressed as "my Lord".  Ditto the
> sons of Dukes.
>
> * the senior Duke in Scotland (if one leaves out the Duke of Edinburgh who
> would take precedence
>   on State occasions.)
>
> A baron is the lowest hereditary rank in the British Isles and is usually
> associated with a piece of land.
> Patents of baronetcies can be bought on the market but are not worth the
> paper they are written on
> e.g. many Earls (who have many secondary titles) may sell off a baronetcy
> in order to raise cash.  It is
> a disreputable business but there are still those who are prepared to
'buy'
> titles - either in the way I have
> mentioned or by paying large sums to a political party so that they might
> be given a seat in the House
> of Lords.  These are now limited to lifetime peerages so that the title
> does not pass from father to son.
>
> As you are aware, hereditary peers are being phased out of the House of
> Lords.  With their removal, the
> House of Commons will no longer have any 'braking mechanism' to challenge
> and, where necessary, change
> questionable legislation.
>
> Niven Sinclair
>
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