Bob, Forgive me for interupting, but can you give us a clue about Lucinda and Eliza Sinclair? Where were they, approx. dates, etc.? We might be able to put our collective heads together to help you. Toni [ This is the Sinclair family discussion list, sinclair@jump.net. [ To get off or on the list, see http://www.mids.org/sinclair/list.html