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Re: John, Joseph and Duncan

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 Barb:  Gail, here.  How wonderful that you responded to the Albion reference.
The Weeks and Seeley (Cilley, Sealey) references in Exeter, NH,  Essex, VT,
though showing alignment throughout to the 17th - 20th century family,  do not
allow me yet to legitimately connect John Sinclair and wife Elizabeth Williams
to any line.  Morrison shows so many unknown Johns and Josephs, and I imagine
that this is where the chain is broken.  I think that possibly someone who has a
broad sibling study is probably where I will be able to "hook in", through
inter-family marriages.

Jean:  Thanks for the lead to Gary. Its interesting you mentioned, as indeed I
was looking for his website just last night.  Please keep those ideas coming
whenever.  I just sense I'm close to the answer.  I have theWilliams -Youngs
heritage and it is early America as well out of Massachusetts. I hope to go next
week once again to the books at the small old library nestled in the village of
Marbletown, NY.  (Leaf-peeking time!)  I do miss those blue-bells in spring,
however!


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> To Gail and Jean G.
>
> I live in the Barre/Albion New York area and am in the line of John Sinkler
> from Exeter, NH.  As far as I know the St Clairs in the Albion area are in
> my line. My line was: John of Exeter; James; Joseph; and Thomas.  Thomas'
> son James went to Barre NY, Orleans Co. and then moved North 7 miles to
> Albion sometime in the early 1800's.  James was the brother of my decendant
> Benjamin.
>    Benjamins' sons Enoch and Asa went to Sacketts Harbor in 1811 and then on
> to Concord, Erie County, NY and lived there until 1845 where Enoch then
> moved on to Ilinois and finally Iowa.
>     I believe that the Sinclairs/St Clairs from the Albion area were only
> from that line, and as of now I am the only Sinclair in the Albion area.
>
> Barb
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gail and Lou <lfghm@ibm.net>
> To: sinclair@zilker.net <sinclair@zilker.net>
> Date: Thursday, October 15, 1998 8:00 PM
> Subject: Re: John, Joseph and Duncan
>
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> >
> >Jean: Gail, here.  Is it at all possible that the Joseph you mention is
> Joseph
> >Sinclair (1817-1878)  m. to Rebecca Bogardus Heermanse (1827-        ), and
> son
> >to John Sinclair m. to Elizabeth Williams?  They were located in New York,
> >approximately in the area of Kingston, NY  (Marbletown, Boiceville).  Many
> >branches of my early family roots  are in that area, coming from both
> France,
> >1660 or Holland 1664, and settling in Kingston (Esopus), NY.  My instincts
> say
> >that the Sinclairs were an early family in the area as well, perhaps in the
> >early 1700's, but I can't establish the connection.  In 1893, my
> >g-great-grandmother and her sister attended a clan meeting of the Sinclairs
> and
> >adopted the St. Clair spelling. You may recall that I wrote to you about
> your
> >marriage records soon to be published.  At that time, I didn't know who
> John
> >had married, but since have been able to establish his wife, Elizabeth.
> >
> > You had mentioned in an earlier email:
> >
> >"I have traced this line back to their arrival.  However, I do not believe
> this
> >Duncan arrived in Charleston, SC.  My documentation shows he first came
> into a
> >northern state, married there, is on at least one census there prior to
> 1790
> >and then migrated to SC.  I have traced all of his children except John."
> >
> >Is the 1790 Census you mention above in either Dutchess or Ulster County,
> NY?
> >I am unable to link the John of Albion, NY, or Long Island, NY with my
> John. I
> >am also unable to link with a family  in VT or NH.  Yet, the Seeleys are
> from
> >the Essex-Rutland-Brandon area.  Such mystery and such fun!
> >
> >FYI: A Duncan and John I found in a Scotland website may be a connection
> >possibly to the line you are tracing?  I had hoped to connect them with my
> John
> >above, but have no way of doing so.
> >
> >On the ship ULYSSES from Greenrock to Wilmington, NC, 1774:
> >
> >Sinclair, John, 32 farmer and wife, Mary, 32, Glenurcha
> >Sinclair, Duncan, 24, farmer and wife, McIntyre, Isobel, 24
> >
> >
> >I wrote John Q. last night in relation to a prior email, where he stated:
> >
> >"son of William Sinclair, b.1755, Scotland, d. after 1780, Scotland son of
> John
> >Sinclair, b.1728,
> >Gloval, Scotland son of Alexander Sinclair, b. c. 1700, Scotland.  Some of
> >their descendants are
> >known to have gone to New York, Michigan, and Australia."
> >
> >I'm hoping he may have another NY source I can pursue.
> >
> >In hopes you may be able to see an link or that something assists
> you...Gail
> >
> >Jean Grigsby wrote:
> >
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> >>
> >> Who is the Joseph?  I ran into an estate settlement that mentioned a
> Joseph
> >> and I had never heard of him in the North Carolina bunch.  Can you
> identify
> >> him or know where he lived?
> >> Jean Grigsby
> >>
> >> ----------
> >> > From: MSiperek@aol.com
> >> > To: sinclair@zilker.net
> >> > Subject: Re: John, Joseph and Duncan
> >> > Date: Wednesday, October 14, 1998 3:01 PM
> >> >
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> >> >
> >> > More Johns-
> >> >     JOHN SINCLAIR
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